data flash vs eeprom

therefor the loop goes infinitly! If I have the read methode and the interrupts are enabeld, so i have to get the byte in the ISR! Using a large block of E-flash to back up the data for a smaller Typically I use these settings: There are other settings explained in the help of the component (see “Getting Help on Processor Expert Components“). Hi Erich, Hi Erich, Sorry, your blog cannot share posts by email. Hi Rohit, I use codewarrior 10.6. Thank you!!!! I’ve been using this for years, and never failed so far. As for the Flash sector size: this is device (flash technology specific). do you mean you cannot write the PFLASH with the GDB debugger and the Segger J-Link debug probe? Are there a approx limit to erase and write the flash memory? and what was the final solution? . Whereas EEROPM is used as an extension of RAM (Random Access Memory) to store comparatively a small amount of data. The problem is that in the first try just after the debugger, works fine, but in a second try with a different value it fails except when the value is zero or sometimes when is 1 or 2. For longer-term storage, this is a valid alternative to EEPROM and will remain until the flash area used is overwritten or erased (i.e. So, I just do the same thing all over again, and click OK that Eclipse update the related source files for me when I switch the CPU package, then it works!!! Hi Camilo, This means they are able to retain data for an extended period of time, regardless of the device is powered ON or OFF. i just want to write one byte to the flash and read it. err = SaveFileCount(index,(void*)&count, sizeof(count)); But recently these differences are disappearing as technologies are catching up. I was wondering how can I implement writing a string in flash using this code. I searched in the rederence manual for KEAZN8 but i did not find any thing about timing? That’s indeed another nice way to do it, so I need to keep this one in mind. http://cache.freescale.com/files/32bit/doc/app_note/AN4282.pdf (but KL does not have Flexmemory, at least not the ones I’m using). For any type of Embedded System application use of EEPROM, Flash, or both is quite obvious. In short, SRAM has all the properties o… In that case, a struct is the better solution. I have executed all the instructions described above but it does not write anything and when I read the area I only get values & FF. (Just asking before I roll my own . the ‘safe write’ does an erase before it programs it. So instead adding an extra external EEPROM device to the design, I can consider to use the internal microcontroller FLASH program memory. The following listing shows an example. So the Problem still the same, programm jumps to the start up, cause it took alot of time in the while loop. It works as expected. Is there a way to suspend the USB briefly while I switch to 80Mhz and do some flash operations, then switch back to the 120Mhz and resume the USB? Translated documents are for reference only. Pingback: DIY ‘Meta Clock’ with 24 Analog Clocks | MCU on Eclipse, Pingback: Behind the Canvas: Making of “60 Billion Lights” | MCU on Eclipse. Once I programmed the EEPROM, and I turn the device ON and OFF rapidaly, sometimes the EEPROM data is cancelled. This takes both time and energy, which is critical if I want to do this while the microcontroller is shutting down because of a power loss. Hi Erich, great and very usefull post, as usual. It is used in many applications including computers, microcontrollers, smart cards, etc. I only have have use flash programming with Processor Expert drivers, because this simply works. That way I know if there is already configuration data present or not. To late to change the hardware… I think we can live with losing the USB debug terminal when writing the calibration values. The flash memory chip is a close relative to the EEPROM; it differs in that it can only erase one block or "page" at a time. In EEPROM, bytes/cells are arranged in pages and a page can be Read, Write and Erase at the byte level. Click to access AN4903.pdf The size of the data memory must be adapted: Storing data in a FLAS… I’m working with KL16 microcontroller and I’m using a piece of its internal FLASH memory like an EEPROM to store some data. Do you have any idea aboute the problem cause? How could I preserve FLASH regions when using OpenSDA on the freedom board? However, what I intend on doing is using the 256 bytes of internal eeprom that I have available in my s9kean32 kinetis part. you would have to check the device data sheet for this. 1FC00 : represents the starting address of the data user This is a define in the generated header file: AREA_SECTOR_SIZE with the flash block size. Manufacturers responded to this limitation with Flash memory, a type of EEPROM that uses in-circuit wiring to erase by applying an electrical field to the entire chip or to predetermined sections of the chip called blocks. is accessed, the EEE state machine keeps track of the data and backs it up as data records, stored in some Difference between I2C and SPI ( I2C vs SPI ). I did have a read through that section of the help file, but it seemed to be mostly offering ways to relocate code and/or data into specific RAM or flash blocks. Or, is it that the 1kb “eeprom” size selected is mapped on the E-Flash (B subsystem) and the A subsystem is ordinary flash memory, that can be used at compile time as program code or data? Hi CoryF, Hello Erich, Hi Erich, I will check into the Intflash PE component meanwhile. In EEPROM there are no such restrictions, old data can be over-written simply by writing new data to the required address. Thank you. And it is designed for high speed and high density at the cost of large erase blocks. IFsh1_SetBlockFlash() ? Required fields are marked *. Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. The method described here (https://community.nxp.com/docs/DOC-102167) did not work for me either. Asap I will take a look on PE link to preserve portion of memory. Give it a try. I have projects with the IntFlash component and the TimerInterrupt one working side-by-side, so not sure why you see an issue? To write such a string use e.g. What I don’t understand is: earlier you said that the device resets and goes to the startup vector, but now you say it is hanging in this loop? While it is correct to state that flash memory is a type of EEPROM, the terms EEPROM and flash memory usually describe different devices. return ERR_BUSY; The FlexRAM address space is where you access all of your EEE data. This means that even when the board is powered off, the EEPROM chip still retains the program that… Hi Hani, I’m introducing the kinetis and codewarrior to my colleagues and students here in the Philippines. The EEPROM is data flash which is similar to program flash, you can use the same functions to erase/program it. I have to say that in all my cases I’m using the ‘safe write’ method, and not the ‘write’ only method. you find the start of the flash area in the linker file. Hi Paul, Newer flash BIOS chips may or may not use flash memory, rather than EEPROM. Infect technically speaking, Flash is a variant of EEPROM. Perhaps you can weigh-in on our discussion in the Freescale forum: https://community.freescale.com/thread/357531 on Facebook 400 : is the size of available space for that data 1. It works now. I suspect that you still have your watchpoint enabled/turned on. An example of it you can find here: https://github.com/ErichStyger/mcuoneclipse/blob/master/Examples/FRDM-KL25Z/RoboLib/Platform.h } LDD_TError Result; if (IFsh1_CmdPending) { eeprom_WriteByte((IFsh1_TAddress)0x1F10, 0x42); I don’t have any S9KEA, so I cannot really comment on what this device can or cannot do. ( Log Out /  Flash memory, on the other hand, which is a type of EEPROM, is architecturally arranged in blocks where data is erased at the block level and can be read or written at the byte level. ESP8266 EEPROM.cpp L54-L65, spi_flash_geometry.h. Both are non-volatile memories. Defining Sections in Source Code. i have good news :). #endif, #define IFsh1_WRITE_TYPE_SAFE FLASH_LDD component and intFLASH component are similar ?. if the code jumps back to the startup code, it usually means your microcontroller has performed a reset. The Segger J-Link only will erase sectors which are used by the programmer. Thanks Erich. Yes you are right, i explained it wrong. I think it is because of the interrupt. Hi Hani, I normally work on custom boards using the Segger J-Link Pro, but I need to use this params saving method in the Freedom KL25 using its own OpenSDA. My guess is I need to access the FlexRAM to access the FlexNVM ( FlexRAM address range = 0x1400_0000 – 0x1400_07FF) and the “virtual eeprom” is not accessible from within the IntFLASH component? do i missing any thing? For Processor Expert, I do this in the ‘Build options’ tab of the CPU component where I find the ROM/RAM areas generated in the linker file: For my KL25Z microcontroller, the FLASH memory (MemoryArea2) starts from 0x410 and has a size of 0x1FBF0: From above, I know that the FLASH block size is 0x400 (1 KByte), and I do not need more than one page, so I reduce the m_text size by 0x400 (0x1FBF0 ==> 0x1F7F0) and a new memory area with size 0x400 starting at address 0x1FC00: The last part is to use it from the application. 0x1000_0000–0x1000_00FF as per the datasheet. What I’m using as well is storing parameters/settings on SD card (see https://mcuoneclipse.com/2014/04/26/frdm-with-arduino-ethernet-shield-r3-part-4-minini/). There are many ways how this can be implemented, but the above way worked very well for me. My code has clock_configuration_0 being the 120Mhz, and _1 being the 80Mhz, so now I get a ERR_SPEED after slowing my clock… I just started learning FLASH , can you Provide me a demo about erase and write flash simply without Processor Expert Component ? this is really strange. I have not used them for that, but I know another use has sucessfully used it to shut down the USB communication and then start it gain. and yes, at() is not supported in GNU/gcc, and you already have found the right article how to place variables at a given address :-). __inline const char myArray[0x400] = {}; then in your main you can write to it via the following: As for a try, can you add some delays between the writes to see if this helps? It offers many functions to program the flash memory: There are functions to write a 8bit (SetByteFlash()), 16bit (SetWordFLASH()) or 32bit (SetLongFlash()) values. Erich. when the data storing is started in the next sector, i’m erasing the previous sector. I wanted to use the IntFLASH component to access the eeprom data but somehow I can’t. Hi Erich, The flash memory is very similar to the EEPROM. So for my above example, it means that a flash block is 1 KByte (0x400). I understand that : An important information is provided by the code generated by the IntFLASH component: how big a flash page or sector is on my microcontroller. what is the ‘platform.h’ file? Not all data are cancelled, some of them are correct. did you mean the size of my Flash area? ESA article: Using Flash Memory in Embedded Applications What is the Difference between Flash Memory and EEPROM? I am a little confusing about that. Hi Hani, http://www.esacademy.com/en/library/technical-articles-and-documents/8051-programming/using-flash-memory-in-embedded-applications.html, ST app note: AN2594 thanks for posting that comment, and indeed I saw such a discussion in the forums, and I thought that this was the problem I saw around the serial bootloader on K64F. I hope that makes now sense? and size must be between 0 and 4096. Hi there! EEPROM vs Flash Memory is always a debatable topic but do we understand each of them well enough to decide which one to choose for an underlying application. My project is running the K22 clock at 120Mhz (with a 16Mhz ext crystal), and these steps don’t work for me. Hi Erich, } (I’ve followed every single details of your tutorial), Yes, that’s intentional. This is usually something like this in the linker file: Great snippets on applications for the KL family! I am working to impliment the code, and found that at the beginning of the kinetis NVM component code they run a check to see if you are in clock_configuration_0, and if not, returns an ERR_SPEED error. Hi Alice, */ This is true even when power is applied constantly. Hi Mevon, Or I’ll have to terminate the USB connection and then launch another after the clock returns to normal. The 400 is 0x400 (hexadecimal) which is 4*0x100 which is 4*256 which is 1024 (1 KByte). Of course they seem to assume that clock_configuration_0 will be the NVM compatable speed, and anything else is not. You can see it is not a flash address, So please help me to store a value in flash if you have time. Erich. Basically I want to periodically sample and store an averaged value on a 5 minute to 15 minute basis. I followed the MQX example flash_demo.c and it works fine. DataFlash usually had higher capacities than EEPROM in the early days, [when?] Hi Andrey, – There is a EEE controller that uses the FlexRAM to backup in the FlexNVM depending on an EEPROM size. Pingback: Flash-based Configuration Data Using The ld Linker – vilimblog. Thanks and Regards, QJ Wang. After that, works only when the value is the same that it’s already saved. First question for be sure: 400 does it represent the number of available address ? #define IFsh1_AREA_COUNT (0x02U) Unlike the other types of media, manufacturers use Random Access Memory (RAM) to I have not used EEPROM emulation yet: for critical applications I have added an external EEPROM (more costs, but more reliable), and if using the internal FLASH the number of writes were not critical (less than one per day). We have lots of critical real-time control and floating point, so not running at 120Mhz is not an option. Anyhow, this method is nice cause it doesn’t force you to muck with the linker file. The internal FLASH memory erase-program cycles are typically lower than the one for EEPROM. So flash is suitable for the application to store static or semi-static data, where data does not need to be overwritten frequently. to store data, erase and to reprogram. where can i find it ? I’m using this to check if my flash is erased (initially) or not, so know if I should store data from my application or not. E.g. I have disabled automatic linker file generation for at least one of my projects. In your example, you had two variables (reflectance data, and Sumo data), and defined three parameters for each (start address, size, end address). I need to tell the linker that I’m going to use part of the FLASH memory for my data storage. I would like to understand if Flash API programming is the same processes like EEPROM emulation and what are the odds between the two. It consists of a collection of floating gate transistors. My guess is, the FlexNVM can be splitted like so 1/8 (A) + 7/8 (B), A subsystem is the accessible part and B subsystem is the backup part, the ratio gives you endurance, and my EEPROM address is starting at 0x10000000. And how am I supposed to read it back. In comparison, Flash can only do so block-wise. So 8 ms is maybe not very fast, but yes, could be realistic. I haven't really decided yet, memory size will most likely dictate the frequency. Depending what you are using as programmer, you could configure it to not erase the data pages. but i do not want to work with interrupts! I store the configuration data at runtime into FLASH with NVMC_SaveSumoData(): Then, if the robot starts, it checks the data in FLASH: Instead of an external EEPROM, the microcontroller internal FLASH can be used to store and read data. IFsh1_SetBlockFlash(“mcu”, (IFsh1_TAddress)(NVMC_STRING_START_ADDR), sizeof(“mcu”)); ../Sources/NVM_Config.c:45:2: warning: pointer targets in passing argument 1 of ‘IFsh1_SetBlockFlash’ differ in signedness [-Wpointer-sign]. …. But I have another problem: first, if i tried to write out side my reserved memors arrea it success!! eeprom_WriteByte((IFsh1_TAddress)0x1F20, 0x43); After the three writes the memory should have 0x41@0x1F00, 0x42@0x1F10 and 0x43@0x1F20. I follow the steps listed above to use the internal FLASH but encounter ‘There is no access into memory from 0x410 to 0xf1c00’ when changing the size of m_text area basically not allowing me to partition the memory as above! My question is that I have a software version that I would like to store in the NVM section that I created. The JTAG programmer performs a mass erase, and this will erase everything in the FLASH memory. I want to store incoming data in flash or EEPROM and then apply FFT or some other method to detect frequency and intensity. Thanks again, my Bus frequency is 24Mhz. The FLASH memory is typically organized in pages (1 KByte, 2 KByte, 4 KByte, etc). The flash memory is a type of EEPROM which has a higher density and lower number of write cycles. To maintain backward compatibility, it is double-word on Freescale 56800/E family, otherwise it is pointer to the smallest addressable unit (byte). Do you know of a library or example of implementing EEPROM emulation on a Kinetis KL05 or similar? if i enabel the interrupt service for the FTMRE component, the write method works fine! I am using a board (not TWR serie) with K60DN512 where has been “flasshed” the Bootloader with a JTAG (programmer USB Multilink Universal). It will be for the component version, or the version of CodeWarrior, or the platform I’m using? do { The solution is to switch to a slower clock (80Mhz would be okay) when doing the flash erase and flash writes. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. But that only make sense for lots of variables/settings, because with the file system there is overhead. Aligned is used to make sure the variable/object is properly aligned according to the bus/CPU architecture (e.g. Thanks! Is that possible? On further digging on the compiler user manual- I stumbled across this. Sadly the “__attribute__ at” doesn’t work in CW. EEPROM is a type of non-volatile memory that is a user-modifiable memory that can be constantly erased and re-programmed by users through applying higher than normal electrical voltage generated externally or internally. Hi Avdit, As for a Kinetis implementation, I have found: Why not using the microprocessor internal flash memory? It can also be erased and rewritten in entire blocks, rather then one byte at a time. But I saw on other devices that in order to program the FLASH you have to run the microcontroller at a reduced speed. There preliminary understanding is, EEPROM is a non-volatile type of memory & Flash is a volatile memory. But IFsh1_CmdPending tells me that it started the flashing, but never completed it. For my cpu, Flex Memory starts at 0x10000000 and is 32kb large. I’ve set the write mode “safe write (with save & erase), but it fail if i write the same flash address “twice”. no, should not be. I have tired the __attribute__((at(0x1FD60))); and I do not think that at() it is supported by GCC. Hi Carlos, ” With this, no external parts are needed, and usually there is plenty of room left on the microcontroller to store things like settings or calibration data. Typically I have a header file like the one below where I have the addresses defined: In that header file I have the addresses defined (based on the start address), plus getter and setter routines. Hi Erich, Adding an external EEPROM? With the serial port I change the value of count and try to save it. The problem is on the re-flash the program (for example for an update of FW) which erase also my previous data stored into NVM memory. That way I can easily turn things off. return ERR_OVERFLOW; Hi Camilo, have you configured the flash driver that it uses ‘safe write’ with erase? But if you have Processor Expert support for that device, using flash or eeprom is very, very simple and straightforward. But I have another problem before that. With the stack I mean that you reserve enough memory for the stack. But indeed I have not used that access methods as I don’t need them. what debug connection are you using? When the EEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GcggYQYrXU. #define IFsh1_AREA_SECTOR_SIZE (0x0400U). Best Regards . The thing is I do not want to steal memory from the flash that I have when I have 256 bytes of internal eeprom available to use I have at most 50 bytes to store. Erich. For these purposes, a newer hybrid form is used called flash memory. Any issues with writing either in an ISR? I recommend to use a getter function like shown in the post. EPROM and EEPROM both are erasable and can be reprogrammed, but the basic difference between them is that EPROM is erased using Ultra violet rays whereas, EEPROM can be erased using electric signals. I looked in web and in the component help, but I still don’t get it. The Segger firmware worked relatively well but I was not able to implement an easy way to preserve the flash region. i am using the setByteFlash()-Method, i want just to write 3-4 Bytes in the NVM. Below is an example how I use it: #define NVMC_REFLECTANCE_DATA_START_ADDR (NVMC_FLASH_START_ADDR) : Otherwise such a platform.h is what I use in most of my projects. I hope you can help me, because I’m really stuck with it to save non-volatile values. See this tutorial combined with the information I just posted: Some times it is like this, but some times the second write it is 0x46 or some thing else, or it overwrites the first write, the same is with the third write??? Thank you. Internally it might use the FLASH_LDD too, so if you can, go with the IntFlash one. but if i stopp running it i foud it hanging in the startup method. I have not observerd something like this. SHELL_SendString((unsigned char*)"FAILED saving calibration.\r\n"); that each 32bit variable is at a 4byte address. Thanks! Flash and EEPROM both use quantum cells to trap electons. Usually the full page needs to be erased first before being programmed. the interrupt setting in the IntFlash component is about the feature that the component would raise an interrupt (to my understanding) when it is finished. the solution was without interrupts. A big THANKS for the support. I prefer to use the SetBlockFlash() as with it I can write any size of data. Pingback: Unlocking and Erasing FLASH with Segger J-Link | MCU on Eclipse, Pingback: Tutorial: How to Erase the FLASH with the GNU debugger | MCU on Eclipse, Hello Mr Styger, best wishes for 2015! Stefano, Hi Stefano, writing to FLASH is much, much slower than reading it. I only read that community post at a high level. I recommend that you partition the memory at the end of the lash area (e.g. 100us? Flash offers more data storage capacity compare to EEPROM. As shown in the below image: But the architecture of Flash memory is a little different from the EEPROM. that’s strange, and I don’t understand why. I am able to read data from PFLASH address by JLINK debugger but not able to write data to PFLASH by JLINK debugger. Can you increase the stack size (to be sure that there is no suble stack overflow)? If you use it as EEPROM, as I said TI HALCoGen generates a FEE driver. return (byte)Result; I found these interesting articles describing how using a table and only erasing (garbage collecting) when needed. DS : Short for Data Set . Using absolute addresses really is a brute force way to do it, I agree. That could be because of the watchdog (is it turned on? /* Minimal erasable unit. At the end I decided to roll it back to the OpenSDA firmware as I found another of your own blogs covering the way to preserve flash regions using advanced configuration settings available in the debugger connection edition window for the P&E debugger. However, I find the PE a bit cumbersome to do this. I hope this helps, */ { The primary difference between them is the lifetime of the data they store. . About the __attribute__ syntax: did you use CW with GNU gcc, or with the Freescale ARM compiler? Hi Victor, Many applications need to store persistent (non-volatile) data at runtime: configuration data, error logs, sensor data, calibration values, etc. I found have something which should help you with your data placement. Arduino EEPROM vs Flash. Memory Configuration and Linker Scripts). But the problem is, if i try to write with the method the Memory overwrites it is self, e.g. I need this for my project, i do not know where the problem is. Memory is one of the most important topics in Embedded System. Change ). I read your your post titled about defining variables at absolute addresses with GCC (https://mcuoneclipse.com/2012/11/01/defining-variables-at-absolute-addresses-with-gcc/) but the problem with this is that in my data is not at the start of the new memory area NVM_Config area, is this what the “aligned” modifier is for? Any thoughts on the approach is appreciated. But I don’t understand how to use the SetBlock Flash, there’s not poiter. Where is this message coming from? Let’s try to understand the differences between EEPROM and Flash. There are devices which have internal EEPROM too: these devices are an alternative to external EEPROM, and typically have the same advantages and disadvantages. Listing: Using the __declspec directive to specify where to place definitions. Flash is typically used with USB devices. Does this happen (on-off) while you are programming it? The other advantage is that I have less dependencies between the user of the storage, and the storage itself. Erich ,Thank you ! Sure, that works, but adds an extra part to the design. So short of rewriting the NVM PEX component, I’ll have to make clock config 0 be 80Mhz, and clock config 1 be the 120Mhz. I want to store a value in flash, I saw your post in this link https://community.nxp.com/thread/329796 and I declared const char test[]=”hello” in my my bareboard project of FRDM-kl25z128 in code warrier 10.7. I know kL25Z128vlk4 have 128k flash ,and the flash sector size is 1 k from datasheet, while where can i find the divide of sector or each sector’s addrees ? The data saved in the flash memory remains there even when the ESP32 resets or when power is removed. This method also brings data-security if the security options of the internal Flash is used. } Hi Erich, I made the instructions of this post and all ran very well. I would think that in your case there was enough energy to pull the bits to 1, but not enough left to program them down to 0. the FLASH_LDD is a component with a different interface (see https://mcuoneclipse.com/2012/07/26/there-is-a-time-and-date-for-both-worlds/). If we look at, say, a CGW in a W221, it contains a Flash and EEPROM, as most modules appear to. . but the read method not, it jumps to the default interrupt handler method!! a delay say of 100 ms? I recommend that you read the specs (if there are any) about how much time is needed for writing. NVM_Config (RWX) : ORIGIN = 0x0001FC00, LENGTH = 0x00000400 Means that the last address is 1FC00 + 400 ? Hi Erich, (AND before when I had just the one speed of 120Mhz I never got a ERR_SPEED which would have been apropriate). EEPROM.write(pos, val) writes one byte (val) at the address giving by pos.An "int" in ESP8266 takes 4 bytes, so it's a little more complicated, because EEPROM works in bytes, not ints. Erich. I’m not fully through that, but it seems that this is the way to go. The first one is a more general/generic one, but the one from STM describes the principle very well. I hope this helps, } else { But once they are programmed, they do not change, right? What confuses me is in the intFlash_LDD, I use 8kb for the EEPROM backup size, for a 512 bytes Eeprom size. if you use the Segger OpenSDA firmware (https://mcuoneclipse.com/2013/05/16/freedom-board-with-segger-opensda-debug-firmware/), then it is like with a Segger J-Link Pro and you can use it like that. Have have use flash programming I searched in the market to store incoming data in the flash programming some. The NXP forums so the engineeres could have a software version that I have already added a delay say 100. Kinetis and data flash vs eeprom 10.x.Thank you very much, much slower than reading it critical control! Needed for writing that in order to program the flash integrated circuits was just ROM read-only! 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